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Phil Ivey beat them out of $ million dollars and $ million dollars over another by exploiting weakness in their opponent's strategy.


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That's why I decided to ask Lex Veldhuis - a pro player who had the chance of playing against Phil - to shine some light on Ivey's strategy and.


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Or, perhaps, he plays poker a bit differently, applying various strategies, tactics and styles – whatever – anything that makes him hold all the aces.


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Phil Ivey, a time winner of the World Series of Poker and a multiple The good advice here is to try and figure out a strategy that works.


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which) who has played him a bunch say that even though he may not articulate his strategy mathematically, Phil Ivey is so good because.


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Plus he didnt even have a flush, more lol , because it eliminates further other good to decent hands too. He's a savant. This is even worse than coin flip when you consider all the other details. Ivey checked to Smith, who bet , Ivey came in with a raise to , and Smith made the call. On Ivey; He is excellent , intelligent and lucky long term so far and worked real hard at it from a very young age to develop natural discipline and reading skill further, thats all in fact all the famous ones are probably lucky during their lifetime in streaks that last years- you can bet on that they are all in some minimal but meaningful good long term lucky streak of at least 1 sd over expected for their already superior skill. Once Phil has a tell on your betting patterns, he can play virtually any two cards against you. I say the all in guy is easily a range that doesnt care about future players and the original reraiser all that much and this is usually here TT-AA,AK. That last part isn't related to the discussion at hand, but I find it interesting and in the same theme. Does his bluff make sense actually? A diservice to poker really when you see that on live TV. Does he have a really high IQ? That plustons of experience is why IMO. Caragiorgas 2c2s Ivey AsTh. Phil can play against most types of people and how they approach the game. I believe just raw experience and pure volume of play has put him up there. Phil Ivey is so good because He understands betting patterns, logic, and body language with the best of them. You go ahead and tell me he is not sub flipping here. First blood to Jordan Smith! Prop bets anyone? Another gem from it is when you're thinking about giving up you're often right on the brink of getting there. What are you calling with that didnt connect at all in any way possible even for a semi bluff here? I think it's his blank stare that does it for him. Again we cant have full understanding because we dont know his hand BUT George Caragiorgas opened for , from UTG, Phil Ivey reraised to 1,, from the small blind, Caragiorgas moved all in for just a bit more and Ivey called. Shameless too! The river fell the Ah and Ivey checked. Smith turned over Ad9c for two pair and Ivey mucked. Smith checked the QhTs5s flop over to Ivey, who checked behind. Nick Maimone opened his second consecutive pot, making it , to go and was met with an all-in reraise from Marco Mattes for 2,, Ivey flat-called the all in and Maimone folded. Fear Equity He wins cos people are afraid of him and the more he wins the more frightened they become The book is "Outliers" you can find more info here gladwell. And the bluff by the way needs the other guy to be folding how often to really work well? Isnt it very likely the other guy is on Ace-x here given so far activity? Not really. Originally Posted by Nclined. I thought it's obvious? Clearly he is involved in countess others that he outplays his opponents. And he is a gambler no doubt. The As on the river prompted an excited "oooh" from the crowd, but they checked it down again. The guy that goes all in with many left including people that covering him to a raise is not doing it with garbage hands. I guarantee he is off-the-charts in pattern recognition ability. Where is the amusement in flipping flop colors? Phil can exploit you, he knows the right time to raise when you have the second best hand. But anyway thats a minor thing and we dont know his hand here but it just shows the mentality at this spot of a loose style that is not exactly a good idea in my opinion here. Originally Posted by fear. Phil has worked hard at poker and probably puts in more hours playing than you do anyway. The turn was the As. Originally Posted by JaxSaint. I mean the other guy raised preflop and he didnt cbet at flop but bets at the ace. Phil knows what amount to raise before you even make that standard bet into him. So what kind of player that is not bully at flop bets the ace now on a draw heavy board and has raised preflop agaisnt Ivey? I know there isnt a single answer or anything, but what does he have over the common man? Smith checked behind. Though it typically gets quite noisy in here at the feature table during an all-in, it was unusually quiet during this confrontation as the Ivey fans braced themselves.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} Yeah, I think the "10, hour principle" mentioned in the book Outliers applies here. That example here illustrates very well that indeed his skill is massive in some other places than the obvious math analysis which in my opinion he has an excellent grasp of due to experience and intuition but not as well as he should by pure study. The guy is doing it with 2. Originally Posted by Joey Originally Posted by timdubz. And the other guy had A9 lol and it was enough hehe! The Qs fell on the turn and both players checked again. If you are able to copy that look you should be as successful as Ivey. What could he possibly have that made sense to play so expensively this way? Sure many hands left but you have to agree that all of them make miserable not meaningful sense to play this way up to that point where the board starts looking ugly Doesnt it sound too opportunistic for you? The following post is very long but it has some amusing real hands from this year's WSOP main event with Ivey and Hellmuth involved but mostly your hero Ivey. But not here! Who bets k on a k pot and then folds to k more, often enough to make this a good idea? Big deal you say and i agree with you that its a tiny error but it only shows he doesnt care for coin flips really when he can afford it. Smith showed Ac9c and Ivey mucked. Originally Posted by pionero. A lethal trio of qualities with only the skill lasting which by now that they are well financed and famous is enough to weather any bad luck! Sounds gambling again or what? Did he ace his SATs? The flop was 4h5c6c and both players checked. The fact is if you consider the others that have yet to act plus original raiser this move is easily negative chip EV let alone bloody tournament EV for one of the best remaining players if not the best who should be worth a much better usage for his chips here. Is he a math wiz? {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}User Name Remember Me? Also i wonder what kind of hands call the raise from SB ignoring the BB and then on the board that emerged are not good for at least some bet at some stage before the bluff. Well deserved though. Anybody have any insight? So he used 2. Last cash game in poker after dark Ivey was flipping the black or red flops with the other "degenerates" for amounts per trial far exceeding the current game at hand or its natural volatility!!! HE said during an interview that he played practically everyday, 12 hrs a day for 5 yrs. Phil Ivey opened for ,, Jordan Smith raised to 1,, and Ivey made the call. And of course all those things and the name add an intimidation factor too. The turn was the 7d, the river was the 4d and Mattes doubled to 5. That is a good read. Zero tilt factor, incredible concentration and ability to pick up on and relentlessy punish opponents who show weakness. Not to get off subject on why but I can tell you I gained so much repect for him after reading "the professor, the banker and the suicide king". I mean what range does the guy that responds with all in to a 3bb open raise has that JJ is good for here with others pending to act and the original raiser. It would be awesome if he has no special abilities because it would motivate me to improve, but I doubt it. They are illuminating to say the least. I believe he's said he's not even that into the math. It was a mega joke of insulting proportions from the best of them.