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In general You should expect the dealer to notify the pit when you raise your bets beyond a certain level, which varies from place to place. I have had a few experiences that I can share here. Log in Register. I'd have bet higher, but I never lost three in a row. I had a dealer overly-interested in my strategy once I was playing, and winning, and a relief dealer came in who just made it his business to discuss my strategy at great lengths with me, even though the table was full. Search forums. If you act all freaked out by it, they may take you for a counter because of that. First of all, realize that I do not count. I assume the count must have been against me when he checked it. I have felt since then that he was doing that to try to screw with me, in case I was counting. So the fiorst lesson for me was, when playing at a real low-roller joint, buy in for small amounts. What should I be looking for? I was backed down once. Mikeaber Well-Known Member Sep 19, Unusual plays ie, non Basic Strategy plays will draw attention. Increasing bets as the count goes up in particular. She was standing off to the side, but doing nothing but watching my table. I was playing a single-deck game, and was betting a 5 - 10 - 25 progression. Search Advanced search…. It is her way of keeping visual track of how she is doing. I played one day when the dealer called that on practically every single hand for four hours; and I hardly ever saw a boss. Search titles only. If they are suspicious of you, they will review the tapes and if they see you doing this only when the count is in your favor, they will likely 86 you. But the main red flag they notice is unusual betting practices. What I intended to say was "Sir, there must be some mistake. You have to remember that the average weekend gambler does not pay attention to the pit. Real heat starts when they start shuffling up when you put out a big bet, changing dealers on you when it isn't the appropriate time to do so, etc. I didn't see much of him for the next two hours, which were a nice win for me. They might ignore small betting spreads, but if you as a counter are taking full advantage of the count, you will come under heat from the casino in most casinos. He seemed very nice; and I have no reason to think he suspected me of counting. He came and stood behind the dealer, who was a short foreign lady. However, I did know that something was up when she went to talk to monkey man and he came to the table. I had a pit boss count down the discards once. After a couple of decks, I was up a decent amount, and I saw her talking with a big goon of an older man in a suit. Then when I slid out the green chip, he stepped around the dealer and pushed it back to me. You have to just play on when you see someone watching you. I didn't think much about the woman watching me, because I am fairly accustomed to that. Maybe I just fit their "counter mold" or apear suspicious in general.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} I am not going to have you counting cards here. What's new New posts New profile posts Latest activity. Lots of books have some info on casino heat and countermeasures. He had, however, watched my play quite a bit during the session. It was at the El Cortez in Las Vegas. Or I you have ever been invited to not play BJ at a casino. I don't think that I have ever drawn attention to myself, but I just might not be seeing the signs. This is my first time in this casino. Every time I have walked in the door, including the first time, at Las Vegas Club, the pit boss has watched me like a hawk. Any stories about casino heat or advice are greatly appreacited. Thread starter Just Learning Start date Sep 19, Just Learning Member Sep 19, I was just wondering what other players experiences are with casino heat. So if you do, you're not an average weekend gambler in their mind. I always recommend Blackbelt in Blackjack as a good starting point. It got me to wondering what the cameras and security thought of my wife's pyramid system. While he was there, I just ignored him. However, as soon as I said "Sir," he cut me off and said "Don't you sir me. I assume that is because they are more vulnerable there, and that most counters seek out those games. So the most I do is observe, in a very general sense, the preceived balance between high and low cards. It is just them notifying their boss according to their protocol, and it sometimes has more to do with accounting than counter-catching. Dealers will alert the Pit Boss whenever someone hits or doubles a hard 12 against a dealer bust card for instance. Believe me, they can tell the difference between someone betting a progression and betting on the count! New posts. I have since learned to be more evasive. The casino figured the wife was catching a glimpse of the dealer's down card and signaling. The dealers would kid her about her "system". It was a slow time, and I got a pit boss watching me almost immediately when I sat down. We did leave up a few hundred on that trip. I was watching TV a couple weeks ago, American Casino, their security was watching a couple where the wife was signaling her husband how to play the hand by arranging her chips. Felt the heat! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. He said something like "I've already backed you down once today. Many places will also call out if you change the color of your chips. Once in a downtown casino, the pit boss came over to me after a nice long winning session at the nickle double-deck game and ask how much I had won. And interestingly enough, I went on a losing streak right after that and dropped most of those blacks right back to them. If you noticed a pit boss paying more attention to you. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Forums New posts Search forums. Another time, a pit boss asked me how many black chips I had taken away from one table when I had moved to another one. He then insisted that I count them in front of him instead of him counting them, even though I pushed the stack over to him to count. I assumed that he wanted to see if I knew what I was doing or not. I do bet some progressions, however, so I am no stranger to the procedure casinos go through with big bet spreads. In my personal experience, the "heat" is greater in Las Vegas than anywhere else I have played; and it is much greater in single-deck games than in any shoe game anywhere. It is one thing to make a comment or ask a question here and there. When he was finished, he just put them back and walked away. It wasn't much later when I got yet another new dealer and proceeded to lose a good bit of what I had won previously. 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